Southwest Airlines objects to check-in Web sites

By JA'RENA LUNSFORD
The Oklahoman
Thursday, June 07, 2007

Sitting in his Norman, Okla. living room in January, Neville Aga said he was surprised Southwest Airlines had not contacted him concerning his Internet-based company, CheckinSooner.com.

Now five months later, the entrepreneur is no longer unknown to the Dallas-based airline, which has asked Aga to cease operating his site or face possible litigation.

CheckinSooner.com allows travelers to check in for their flights within three minutes of their 24-hour check-in window without having to sit in front of the computer. The site serves travelers flying Southwest, American, Delta, United and Continental. Travelers pay a fee to use the service - often in hopes of being upgraded or in Southwest's case, receiving the coveted "A" boarding pass that allows travelers to board first.

But Southwest says the site is against the airline's online terms and conditions, and is therefore a breach of contract.

"One thing it (www.southwest.com) clearly lays out is that a third-party company cannot use the Web site for commercial purposes," Southwest spokesman Chris Mainz said. Mainz said he could not comment on whether the airline has decided to sue CheckinSooner.

Southwest sent Aga his first cease and desist letter at the end of February. Aga, who said he wanted to work with, not against, Southwest from the beginning, agreed to comply with some of Southwest's request, such as removing CheckinSooner.com advertisements from Southwest kiosks and removing any of the airline's copyrighted items from his site. But Aga did not shut down his site, and has no plans to.

"They (Southwest) are acting like a dad, saying 'You can't do this,' instead of giving travelers a choice," Aga said. "I think the traveling public ought to have the right to use a service like mine if they want to.

"It should be the traveler's choice, not Southwest's."

This is not the first time Southwest has heard this argument. Kate Bell knows the argument - and the repercussions - very well. Bell, who founded BoardFirst.com in 2005 to help Southwest travelers get an "A" boarding pass for $5, has been in litigation with the airline for more than a year.

"I'm still fighting them every day," Bell said. Phoenix-based BoardFirst will give its deposition next week, Bell said. She said the case is supposed to go to court in October, but she doubts that will happen.

"We could be in this another year," said Bell, who filed a defamation lawsuit against Southwest.

Another year in litigation might not be so bad for BoardFirst.

"Them suing us was the best thing that ever happened to us," Bell said. The suit brought attention to her business, which has doubled, she said. Her site now has 10,000 users.

William Eger of Altus, Okla. is one of the travelers who learned about BoardFirst after reading about Southwest's lawsuit against the company. Eger, who sometimes would have to get up at 6 a.m. the day before his flight to insure he got an "A" boarding pass, said he doesn't understand why the airline would be against anything that brings convenience to its travelers.

"Southwest doesn't lose any money and it (BoardFirst) makes for happier passengers," said Eger, who used the site in February. "It's a win-win for everyone."

Aga acknowledges that a lawsuit against CheckinSooner could bring the same kind of attention and growth to his company, but he's hoping a court case is not in his future.

"I started this as a side interest," Aga said. "It's very nerve-racking when you have someone with as deep pockets as Southwest coming after you."

Mainz said the issue is not about shutting down other businesses, but maintaining quality customer service for Southwest travelers.

"We've placed a high value on the relationship we've built with our customers and that's a service we can't control through a third-party," Mainz said. He said there is a security concern when travelers are giving their boarding information to parties not affiliated with Southwest.

Aga argues that third-parties such as T-Mobile and Google use Southwest's site for commercial purposes without being held liable for breech of contract.

"Southwest is singling myself and BoardFirst out," Aga said.

Mainz said Google's use of Southwest site is approved because the search engine takes travelers to Southwest's site, where the airline then can control the service.

Aga said he told Southwest he will follow the ruling that is made in the BoardFirst case in October, meaning come this fall CheckinSooner may be ordered to logoff for good.

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Infringement

Southwest has to fight to maintain it's website integrity as well as total comtrol of the distribution network. I don't think Neiman Marcus would be thrilled if the information on it's website was allowed to be manipulated by Saks, Sears or BurgerKing. A company wants to have it's customers use it's website exclusively, thus driving business "in the door". There are so many ways to checkin now via cellphone, messaging etc. that the inconvenience complaint is rather mute.

Check in web sites

Assuming that the service is some type of auto checkin (If not then my point is mute) it would be an easy for Southwest to put in a scambled letter idenfication routine like other sites have done to prevent the auto checkin routines....

"moot point" not "mute

"moot point" not "mute point"... sorry little pet peeve.

I think a bigger issue is

I think a bigger issue is that the information on the customer's itinerary or flights is being shared with a 3rd party. I think by not allowing the 3rd party check-in, Southwest can guarantee the safety of the customer's data. Keeping track of 10,000 users' flight data is a little dangerous in my opinion.

Southwest is right in this

Southwest is right in this case, and I admit to having run to the computer to get the "A" boarding pass. Security is the most significant issue. This is information that falls into the "need to know" category. There are too many cases of sloppy and just plain lazy and stupid errors concerning data security. Besides this appears to be just another "me...me...me" waste of money. Let them get their own boarding pass.

I have to agree I think

I have to agree I think SouthWest is right also air tickets

southwest is anti-customer with its action

The confirmation number is my information, not Southwest's. I can share it with whomever I want and Southwest has no policy against that. I already share it with my travel agent, and if I choose, one of these checkin sites is also my agent.

Regarding convenience, if I am in a meeting, or it is very early in the morning or late at night or at another time I cannot make it to the computer, then I am out of a seat on Southwest without a checkin agent. For many of these reasons the alternative checking methods - phone, etc., are not viable much of the time.

Of course, from Southwest's standpoint, they don't care who gets what seat. A checkin site just means that anyone not using one will get a lower seat, so they'd like to eliminate them so that the world doesn't get the impression that you have to be a seasoned traveller or computer user to get a good seat on southwest.

BUT, this is Southwest's own fault: they generated the demand for 24-hour advance checkin to get a seat. If they gave out boarding priority according to purchase time, they'd not have this problem. Of course, then people would want to avoid purchasing the last tickets on a flight, but it's the same pressure as on a normal airline. One idea would be a random boarding order assignment, with groups getting the highest priority on any of their passengers, increasing the likelihood of their boarding early and sitting together.

Anyway, this is a problem of Southwest's own making, and I think less of them, as a customer, because of it. They are working against my best interests in shutting down a service that avoids a problem they created, that no other airline has. Shame on them.

--jh--

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